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Jon;



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Richard Dawkins says abort downs syndrome babies




http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-ouch-28879659
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Post Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:50 pm 
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woofy



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i agree.


*hides*

Post Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:31 am 
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hassan-i-sabbah



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dawkins being a eugenicist shouldn't be surprising to anyone who's paid even passing attention to him
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Post Fri Aug 22, 2014 6:56 am 
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Modern medicine inhibits the natural eugenics of our species.

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hassan-i-sabbah



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quote:
Originally posted by KingHillBilly
Modern medicine inhibits the natural eugenics of our species.


there's no such thing as "natural eugenics"
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quote:
Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
quote:
Originally posted by KingHillBilly
Modern medicine inhibits the natural eugenics of our species.


there's no such thing as "natural eugenics"


very informative and insightful information to correct and fill in the blanks that some of us had on the topic.


insert khb ass kissing here
as i could understand what he is talking about.
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Post Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:08 am 
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quote:
Originally posted by stoned@chayliss
quote:
Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
quote:
Originally posted by KingHillBilly
Modern medicine inhibits the natural eugenics of our species.


there's no such thing as "natural eugenics"


very informative and insightful information to correct and fill in the blanks that some of us had on the topic.


insert khb ass kissing here
as i could understand what he is talking about.


take your meds
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Post Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:10 am 
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KingHillBilly



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Those lifeforms most adept to survive, survive. That's natural eugenics, survival of the fittest.

But you are correct, there is no 'natural eugenics' because our technology has advanced far enough to inhibit it.

Which is what I said...


Evolution automatically rewards superior traits (for survival).

Post Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:20 am 
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Jon;



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i think you're confusing evolution with eugenics
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Post Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:22 am 
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hassan-i-sabbah



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quote:
Originally posted by KingHillBilly
Those lifeforms most adept to survive, survive. That's natural eugenics, survival of the fittest.

But you are correct, there is no 'natural eugenics' because our technology has advanced far enough to inhibit it.

Which is what I said...


Evolution automatically rewards superior traits (for survival).


that's natural selection, eugenics is specifically humans intervening in natural selection to attempt to "breed" people with desirable traits
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Post Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:25 am 
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Jon;



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I was doing some reading on wiki and came across this interesting paragraph




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Diseases vs. traits

While the science of genetics has increasingly provided means by which certain characteristics and conditions can be identified and understood, given the complexity of human genetics, culture, and psychology there is at this point no agreed objective means of determining which traits might be ultimately desirable or undesirable. Some diseases such as sickle-cell disease and cystic fibrosis respectively confer immunity to malaria and resistance to cholera when a single copy of the recessive allele is contained within the genotype of the individual. Reducing the instance of sickle-cell disease in Africa where malaria is a common and deadly disease could indeed have extremely negative net consequences. On the other hand, genetic diseases like haemochromatosis can increase susceptibility to illness, cause physical deformities, and other dysfunctions, which provides some incentive for people to re-consider some elements of eugenics.





Basically diseases we see as negative can actually be beneficial and actually lead to immunity to other diseases.
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heh eradicating what is perceived as an undesirable trait by eugenics is almost like removing or adding a species to an ecosystem, you may not know what the side effects will be in the long run.
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by the way how does dawkins not know the possible negative consequences as a biologist? what a retarded fuck
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quote:
Originally posted by KingHillBilly
Those lifeforms most adept to survive, survive. That's natural eugenics, survival of the fittest.

But you are correct, there is no 'natural eugenics' because our technology has advanced far enough to inhibit it.

Which is what I said...


Evolution automatically rewards superior traits (for survival).


i would jump infront of a bullet for khb...better yet iwould use ghostnuke-hussian-hater-takesnosabbath as a human shield
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quote:
Originally posted by stoned@chayliss
i would jump infront of a bullet for khb...better yet iwould use ghostnuke-hussian-hater-takesnosabbath as a human shield

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Post Fri Aug 22, 2014 11:29 am 
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon;
by the way how does dawkins not know the possible negative consequences as a biologist? what a retarded fuck
it's really disturbing that your objection to this maniac is "he's not doing good science". how about it's morally abhorrent to perpetuate the idea that people with downs syndrome are better off not living.

guess i shouldn't be surprised though, one of your favorite insults is to tell people they are downs syndrome retards.

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Jon;



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he's an actual scientist that is why i pointed that out..

nice fake outrage tho
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so hassan should just do vasectomy. problem solved
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