i've been practicing randomly, and i've come to find out that my new 2/12 dual is quite good. This strat works only with humans. 12 should be sealed with a farm n a smith, 2 with 2 farms and a rax ( make sure you can pump out footies when you build your rax),have 2 gts for defense, and always have 2 peasants out. Those peasants will go anywhere you'd like to build a mill, later on you can use these peasants for mage towers, towering, farming, ect. ( it is vital you have those peasants out ), i use them for farms n them mages every game, and expanding. Build 3 foots just to have, you can pressure other duals, or patrol the empty spots, ( if your enemy is rushing, build another rax above 2 and hide some foots to get dem cats. This 12/2 build allows you to get an ecomny going Quite quickly. if you hold off the first rush, you are pretty much golden, if you are fighting someone that is better than you, you will need a cannon to help the possible gts you have thrown up. If you built everything correctly, and have done everything efficently, you should hav 15k stashed, make sure you get a fast castle, ( which is easy ) and put up 4 gryphon towers Or w/e they are called . while those go up, You should have all spots scouted and under control,( make sure to send more footies to the extra spots if your scouts and/or patrols are killed. You exp with your outside peasants, after you contruct atleast 3 mage towers in handie spots. the enemy will think they can just run your dual over with d&d, so make the procation to have mage towers at 2/12, ( most definately 12, since theres s12 for you, which makes 12/2 a good air dualing spot. Since humans are handie with mages, ( Which is your lifeline, you will be able to research, slow, invs, polymorph, ect. This dual works even vs another dual Or even a 3 hall if you decide to power to mages when you scout the 3 hall, use your foots to pressure the 3 hall, you can do w/e you'd like, this strat is totally flexible i highly recommended it. I have beaten many people with this dual, most i have losing records to, and continued to beat them with the same strat.... I tell everyone this great strat since i am retired, one of the fruits of constant play of wc2.... all of my researching payed off.. for what it was worth... Give it a try even if you think it sounds dumb, which i doubt. Love Yamon.
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that is really bad.

Dont get me wrong. I know Swift uses this strat too. But didnt get this:

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you should hav 15k stashed, make sure you get a fast castle,

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Originally posted by SoCxYamon
research, slow, invs, polymorph, ect.

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rat, i know you are bad, but even you should know that reading anything Yamon posts that is war2-related is a brainfuck

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rat, i know you are bad, but even you should know that reading anything Yamon posts that is war2-related is a brainfuck

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that strat would of thrown even you off, like 5 times in a row swift.... the dual is what you make of it, if you have the skill to hang in, i've already beat like 6 diff players somewhat recently, even after retirement using a laptop, and these players you would consider... better than me
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anyone who disagrees with the Fact that you can use humans the way i do and beat any player with ease, i will play 1v1, after 4 months of retirement and will give them a run for their money.
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didnt swift beat u with only archers?

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didnt swift beat u with only archers?

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lol

yeah, i'm like 5-0 vs him using archers...

how would that strategy throw anyone off, it certaintly doesn't give you the element of suprise, just behind two peons on gold.

should have recorded them...

A: i taught yamon this strat like 3 years ago
B: i also beat yamon archers only, some say against that very strategy...


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2-0 yamon archers only
7-0 swift (archers only)
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I am also a contradiction of my own lies

I dont need to record them, mon may 'suck' but he doesn't deny records.

its.. umm easy to beat someone with archers any amount of time, when they are new...? But now i am not new, i beat hundreds of players using archers, its not a big deal... besides, i am better than nedok in most ways, gans doesn't play, foonat is somewhat good but not really. the strategy is elite. sparkz tought me quite a handful, i think sparkz is the greatest player in history, and as far as swift is concerned. well today hes the only one who can actually combat me on f.
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i know this is old...but.....why does yamon still continue to talk like hes even halfway good....
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I 40-0'd your mother.

he's beaten hundreds of players with archers. that's why. so he's pretty much beaten anyone he's ever seen on battle.net with archers.

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i think sparkz is the greatest player in history

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i think sparkz is the greatest player in history

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I ENVY

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i think sparkz is the greatest player in history

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I ROFL

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try hall, farm, rax, farm, smith, farm, farm, farm ,farm, farm, now mine gold, continue farms and rush, np

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i stomped yamon with humans on fastest

Race isn't a huge factor on fastest. If you win with them on EF then it's impressive. Lust is just to powerful and ef revolves around it late game.

bad indeed

i dare you to try that against me,


i wont even fort


merely a grunt spam will take care of 12/2 dual


we can join/quit w/e until u start in that spot

lol i'm so embarassed of these posts. I used to be quite a rowdy little guy. Funny thing is this strategy ended up being posted on server.war2.ru. Lol it's pretty bad.
Well it's alright, but certianly nothing elaborate. It would own the newbs that play nowerdays. Meh.

http://server.war2.ru/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=91

since this was posted on the server site, i suppose i should make this far more clear.

Yamon's Air Dual

This strategy works only on GOW BNE F. It will work with every single spot on the map. The only few things this strategy that are ideal, is the fact that people on ru are primarily gow ef players, so they primarily never expect air, and when there is air they can't do shit against it if you're good at microing it. Not only that, but it doesn't matter what they do, whether it's 3 hall, counter dual, cat rush, ogre rush, anything. This strategy will do just fine. It's a strategy that's easily countered vs a good player, the element of surprise is what's Required. The best way to do this is get to level 3 while dualing and scouting to make them think that you're doing a dual rush, or something stupid that players would do these days. Now how to actually do this strategy.

Dual any spot on GOW BNE F, and build in a way where you've built every starting building, but with a rax that can pump grunts/footmen on the outside ( could be with a wall or a tower manipulating popping position). Obviously get your gold situated first off, and stay consistant on farms. Get level 3 as fast as you can afford. Scout with grunts/footmen, and determine what you'll need to survive to dragons, whether it be absolutely no defence, or tons, preferably none, since the point of the strategy is dragons as fast as possible. The most crucial thing to being faster than your opponent in any wc2 game, is to chop earlier and only have as many miners as you require. This rule of thumb, is broken with the air dual, as soon as you hit fort ( as fast as you possibly can manipulating resources throughout the entire time according to defence and the speed of your opponent), Throw almost every peon on gold and start to pump dragons from 4 roosts. Once you get your enemy annoyed, and scout all spots with an extra dragon, begin getting bloodlust and upgrading weapons/armor, or just paladins as humans. Begin to expand. Take as much land as you can afford, and don't stop either, throughout the entire game you will always take as much land as you can afford. Remember when you take your first expansion ( off the dual ) it's important that it becomes a strong expansion, rather than a weak one, to ensure that you have 3 bases. It doesn't really matter how many the enemy has, as 3 bases ( most likely 60k x3) is enough to kill an opponent no matter what they do. Once you have the three bases up, the ogres/knights will primarily be for defence. Use dragons/zepplins to see where your opponent's attacks are coming from and use your forces to defend yourself. Whilst you do this what you will want to do is just use hasted dks/ invis mages for primariy your only attack. If your enemy expands, take it down asap. Do not attempt to wait for them to mine and decay it. use saps and ogres to kill it if they walled it up quickly. This is just the basics to this strategy, and as you can see it was quite a complex one to begin with, i was just really lazy and didn't want to type it all out the first time, since i thought noone would care, i was obviously wrong since i hear referrerances to it daily, and it's on the official site.

Anyway, give it a try, practice it, it's useful to have in your arsenal
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Games between $paCe and yamon
Current 1v1 Record: 12 - 1

$paCe (#9) defeated yamon (#121) on "Garden of War" at 09:22:33 on 06/09/2011.
$paCe (#9) defeated yamon (#121) on "Garden of war BNE" at 09:06:00 on 06/09/2011.
$paCe (#7) defeated yamon (#30) on "Garden of War" at 12:53:20 on 10/10/2010.
$paCe (#7) defeated yamon (#30) on "Garden of War" at 12:39:23 on 10/10/2010.
$paCe (#12) defeated yamon (#110) on "Garden of War" at 05:12:31 on 07/26/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Plains of snow BNE" at 08:21:06 on 03/06/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Plains of snow BNE" at 07:45:20 on 03/06/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Garden of War" at 07:35:25 on 03/06/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Garden of War" at 07:27:17 on 03/06/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Garden of War" at 07:15:48 on 03/06/2010.


Games between ArRoW and yamon
Current 1v1 Record: 3 - 0

ArRoW (#162 → #147) defeated yamon (#132) on "Garden of war BNE" at 01:45:29 on 09/10/2010.
ArRoW (#192 → #162) defeated yamon (#132) on "Garden of war BNE" at 02:46:47 on 09/09/2010.
ArRoW (#253 → #192) defeated yamon (#132) on "Garden of war BNE" at 02:13:42 on 09/09/2010.
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7vel should cry harder in Africa, they could use the water.

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Games between $paCe and yamon
Current 1v1 Record: 12 - 1

$paCe (#9) defeated yamon (#121) on "Garden of War" at 09:22:33 on 06/09/2011.
$paCe (#9) defeated yamon (#121) on "Garden of war BNE" at 09:06:00 on 06/09/2011.
$paCe (#7) defeated yamon (#30) on "Garden of War" at 12:53:20 on 10/10/2010.
$paCe (#7) defeated yamon (#30) on "Garden of War" at 12:39:23 on 10/10/2010.
$paCe (#12) defeated yamon (#110) on "Garden of War" at 05:12:31 on 07/26/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Plains of snow BNE" at 08:21:06 on 03/06/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Plains of snow BNE" at 07:45:20 on 03/06/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Garden of War" at 07:35:25 on 03/06/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Garden of War" at 07:27:17 on 03/06/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Garden of War" at 07:15:48 on 03/06/2010.


Games between ArRoW and yamon
Current 1v1 Record: 3 - 0

ArRoW (#162 → #147) defeated yamon (#132) on "Garden of war BNE" at 01:45:29 on 09/10/2010.
ArRoW (#192 → #162) defeated yamon (#132) on "Garden of war BNE" at 02:46:47 on 09/09/2010.
ArRoW (#253 → #192) defeated yamon (#132) on "Garden of war BNE" at 02:13:42 on 09/09/2010.

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Originally posted by smurf_king
bad indeed

i dare you to try that against me,


i wont even fort


merely a grunt spam will take care of 12/2 dual


we can join/quit w/e until u start in that spot

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he's right actually, you're the one that is horrible

Originally posted by SuperSly
Games between $paCe and yamon
Current 1v1 Record: 12 - 1

$paCe (#9) defeated yamon (#121) on "Garden of War" at 09:22:33 on 06/09/2011.
$paCe (#9) defeated yamon (#121) on "Garden of war BNE" at 09:06:00 on 06/09/2011.
$paCe (#7) defeated yamon (#30) on "Garden of War" at 12:53:20 on 10/10/2010.
$paCe (#7) defeated yamon (#30) on "Garden of War" at 12:39:23 on 10/10/2010.
$paCe (#12) defeated yamon (#110) on "Garden of War" at 05:12:31 on 07/26/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Plains of snow BNE" at 08:21:06 on 03/06/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Plains of snow BNE" at 07:45:20 on 03/06/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Garden of War" at 07:35:25 on 03/06/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Garden of War" at 07:27:17 on 03/06/2010.
$paCe (#11) defeated yamon (#29) on "Garden of War" at 07:15:48 on 03/06/2010.


Games between ArRoW and yamon
Current 1v1 Record: 3 - 0

ArRoW (#162 → #147) defeated yamon (#132) on "Garden of war BNE" at 01:45:29 on 09/10/2010.
ArRoW (#192 → #162) defeated yamon (#132) on "Garden of war BNE" at 02:46:47 on 09/09/2010.
ArRoW (#253 → #192) defeated yamon (#132) on "Garden of war BNE" at 02:13:42 on 09/09/2010.
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7vel should cry harder in Africa, they could use the water.

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he's right actually, you're the one that is horrible

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