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GenOciDe-
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Posts: 5719
Location: Ottawa |
wow kanuks. Could you explain the quantum theory for me as well?
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:18 pm |
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yah`mon
Joined: 27 Feb 2003
Posts: 577
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id say 90% of the time i prefer a dual in 11 over a straight power but of course in 2v2 its rarely going to be the optimal strategy from 11
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Sat Nov 26, 2005 8:21 pm |
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Paper_Boy
Joined: 28 Sep 2000
Posts: 3587
Location: penis |
1 base is better, less defense needed and they dont know what ur doing. Just make sure you secure an expansion
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:35 am |
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KaNuKs
Joined: 12 Dec 2001
Posts: 3272
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
What you mean, Confused Boy, you say take only one hall but "just secure an exp". What are we supposed to understand? Invisible exp?
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:49 pm |
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GaNzTheLegend
Joined: 01 Jan 2001
Posts: 8287
Location: Toronto, Canada |
he obviously means secure one later on not right away einstein.
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:34 pm |
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KaNuKs
Joined: 12 Dec 2001
Posts: 3272
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
Securing an expansion is something you failed accomplish do 5 games vs me.
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:30 pm |
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GaNzTheLegend
Joined: 01 Jan 2001
Posts: 8287
Location: Toronto, Canada |
Keep piling up the lies.
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:22 pm |
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KaNuKs
Joined: 12 Dec 2001
Posts: 3272
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
Oh poor ganz, i just tried to put myself into your place, and i realised how bad you must feel having to lie every damn times you reply to me. I mean, you know better than me how bad i crushed you. You know better than me how you never managed to keep a single expand vs me. You know better than me that im at higher level than you.
It fucking sucks to be you.
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:13 pm |
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Mackman
Joined: 19 Apr 2001
Posts: 3639
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In general, I found that 2 halls gets you to lust alot quicker, as you can always be making peons as you are upgrading, but it seems your mine goes alot faster and you have a shit load of peons to contend with. Im my scenerio I think it was a good strat to use, but obviously wouldnt work too well if I was doubled, or had a nib. Good suggestions guys thanks, keep em comin.
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:33 pm |
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KaNuKs
Joined: 12 Dec 2001
Posts: 3272
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
Mack, a good suggestion yould be to do it only when your ally is at 9 and youre at 11. Other than that its risky. You better just plain rush or send a peon scouting right away.
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:19 pm |
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GaNzTheLegend
Joined: 01 Jan 2001
Posts: 8287
Location: Toronto, Canada |
quote:
Originally posted by KaNuKs
Oh poor ganz, i just tried to put myself into your place, and i realised how bad you must feel having to lie every damn times you reply to me. I mean, you know better than me how bad i crushed you. You know better than me how you never managed to keep a single expand vs me. You know better than me that im at higher level than you.
It fucking sucks to be you.
Most games I didn't even need to get an expansion vs you. I remember one time I was dualing 9/11 and u were at 12/2 either dualing or dual rushing can't remember but long story short I hit your base with lust and yo werer ogre level 3. GG man.
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:49 pm |
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KaNuKs
Joined: 12 Dec 2001
Posts: 3272
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
hahahahahahaahaha dream on my son.
i remember 5 games vs you : the 5 games you did the same pathetic dual. in none of these games you managed to take an expand other than your 2 starting mines. in all of these games i had the whole map when u left. i vision raped you like 3 times this way. you would leave after i vised you without even saying a damn word.
ROFL.
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:18 pm |
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GaNzTheLegend
Joined: 01 Jan 2001
Posts: 8287
Location: Toronto, Canada |
quote:
Originally posted by KaNuKs
hahahahahahaahaha dream on my son.
i remember 5 games vs you : the 5 games you did the same pathetic dual. in none of these games you managed to take an expand other than your 2 starting mines. in all of these games i had the whole map when u left. i vision raped you like 3 times this way. you would leave after i vised you without even saying a damn word.
ROFL.
stop making up fucking lies
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:54 pm |
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KaNuKs
Joined: 12 Dec 2001
Posts: 3272
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
How can you call what you clearly remember lies?
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:04 pm |
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GenOciDe-
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Posts: 5719
Location: Ottawa |
The only mines I would build 2 halls in are 11 and 12... and possibly 9 (but i'd rather dual s9/gay 6/8 if I were 9 and my pard were 11). I would only build 2 halls if it was a 3v3/4v4 and 1 of my pards was 9 (rushing) with me at 11, or my pard @ 2 (rushing) with me @ 12. It's only worth it due to the extra gold at these mines. and with at least 1 of your pards rushing you will dominate the late game. But, like pb said, make sure you secure an expansion by the time your mine blows or you'll be out of gold fast.
When I do build 2 halls in 1 base I make sure to have 2 secure expansion by the time my mine blows since I have a million peons by that point.
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:14 pm |
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Ywfn
Joined: 30 May 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by GenOciDe-
The only mines I would build 2 halls in are 11 and 12... and possibly 9 (but i'd rather dual s9/gay 6/8 if I were 9 and my pard were 11). I would only build 2 halls if it was a 3v3/4v4 and 1 of my pards was 9 (rushing) with me at 11, or my pard @ 2 (rushing) with me @ 12. It's only worth it due to the extra gold at these mines. and with at least 1 of your pards rushing you will dominate the late game. But, like pb said, make sure you secure an expansion by the time your mine blows or you'll be out of gold fast.
When I do build 2 halls in 1 base I make sure to have 2 secure expansion by the time my mine blows since I have a million peons by that point.
What about dual halling inside s9 with a cat. Build below 9 and it's a similar concept to dueling at 6. You mine gold a little slower at 9, but you have the added bonus of making them think you are ogre rushing, which almost all players counter with a quick power and are easily overrun.
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Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:10 pm |
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KaNuKs
Joined: 12 Dec 2001
Posts: 3272
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
Can it be chopped before s9 pop? If yes and easily then i admit it can fuck some one.
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Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:58 pm |
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Mackman
Joined: 19 Apr 2001
Posts: 3639
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Suppose it was a 4v4 and I had 12, and i had a neighbor at 2. Assuming i attempted to gay/rep rush and lost it, but had just enough time to wall etc. Would it be worth it to dual, to get res back quickly? Or would initially spending the 1200g, 800w be too much to get back?
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Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:28 pm |
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KaNuKs
Joined: 12 Dec 2001
Posts: 3272
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
I assume its on gow bne f. If so, never dual in a gay war unless :
1. you had a early game fight and know for sure you have a decent edge.
2. you know your opponent damn well and know for sure he will not cat rush you because you know he always go for lust in these circumstances.
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Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:06 pm |
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GenOciDe-
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Posts: 5719
Location: Ottawa |
quote:
Originally posted by Mackman
Suppose it was a 4v4 and I had 12, and i had a neighbor at 2. Assuming i attempted to gay/rep rush and lost it, but had just enough time to wall etc. Would it be worth it to dual, to get res back quickly? Or would initially spending the 1200g, 800w be too much to get back?
If you're that low on res, then no.
But if you are referring to gow/bne I've won many games building 2 halls, a mill and then sending 2 peons to scout/tower and win the gay war. Why? Because Gow/Bne blows.
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Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:55 pm |
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DoNxArmyman
Joined: 01 Jan 2006
Posts: 57
Location: lincoln |
hmm it seems impossible to answer that question.. there r thousands of maps and thousands of players. plus you have 1s 2s 3s 4s... from what iv seen its not the smartest thing to use on gow f, many try but few succeed, mainly because rushers do too much damage to the base then they need money for farms and once you have farms you need peons. but then again some are pros at this, for example braviet.
also if you die, but manage to run a peon out and you can afford to build two halls it gets you back into the game faster, but havent played forever, but i blew when i did.
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Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:24 pm |
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CWU_Wizard
Joined: 02 Jun 2006
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Dual halling is often a waste of money, but it kicks ass on the map Friends.
On Friends you have about unlimited money in your goldmine, so it'll be like exping.
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Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:56 am |
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KaNuKs
Joined: 12 Dec 2001
Posts: 3272
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
quote:
Originally posted by Strapping Young Lad
quote:
Originally posted by CWU_Wizard
Dual halling is often a waste of money, but it kicks ass on the map Friends.
On Friends you have about unlimited money in your goldmine, so it'll be like exping.
no newbies allowed giving advice
So i must expect no advice coming from you ever.
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Thu Jun 08, 2006 5:14 pm |
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Strapping Young Lad
Joined: 09 Aug 2003
Posts: 5898
Location: ONTARIO, CANADA |
quote:
Originally posted by Strapping Young Lad
no newbies allowed giving advice
This includes you fAgnuks, you french retard.
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Fri Jun 09, 2006 4:57 pm |
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KaNuKs
Joined: 12 Dec 2001
Posts: 3272
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
43-0?!!?!?!?!?!??? gg.
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Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:26 pm |
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Strapping Young Lad
Joined: 09 Aug 2003
Posts: 5898
Location: ONTARIO, CANADA |
no one believes that and if they do they are retarded like you are
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:12 am |
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KaNuKs
Joined: 12 Dec 2001
Posts: 3272
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
Everyone knows its damn true, you the first.
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 12:09 pm |
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Strapping Young Lad
Joined: 09 Aug 2003
Posts: 5898
Location: ONTARIO, CANADA |
i am a much better player than you
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:42 pm |
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KaNuKs
Joined: 12 Dec 2001
Posts: 3272
Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada |
ah plz, stupid inferior, dont make me post our last 7 games' ss.
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Thu Jun 15, 2006 5:05 pm |
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