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Advantage of being Muslim #176


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cpt^Claw



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hmm... lol... i guess Rolling Eyes Confused
srsly tho faglord if u lived in europe u'd know about and/or see everything
its less and less funny with each and every one case of female genital mutilation in uk for example

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wtf are u even talking about claw
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Islam has as much to do with female genital mutilation as much as Christian priests are pedophiles.
Do not assimilate culture to religion or people to religion.
ISIS is just another example. Nothing to do with Islam.
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Aren't catholic priests the ones with pederastic ways though? Christian and catholic are different religions u know
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quote:

ISIS is just another example. Nothing to do with Islam.

haha well theres no point arguing with you if you truly believe that xD

Post Sun Oct 19, 2014 2:11 am 
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Smokosz



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Listen to this erudite Muslim preacher:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7C92BCF391A8E4BF

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http://quran.com/4/89

They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah . But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.

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quote:
Originally posted by GreenPlastic
http://quran.com/4/89

They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah . But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.


Just did a 3 secs search on what you posted.
http://norasensation.wordpress.com/2008/10/16/misquoted-violent-verses-in-the-holy-quran/

If you need youtube vids or something explaining the matter, I will look for them.
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quote:
Originally posted by cpt^Claw

quote:

ISIS is just another example. Nothing to do with Islam.

haha well theres no point arguing with you if you truly believe that xD


There is also no point arguing with you if you believe ISIS is Islam.
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cpt^Claw



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nah, islamic state of whatever is not islam

#muzlimLogic

Post Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:46 am 
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quote:
Originally posted by smurf_king
Aren't catholic priests the ones with pederastic ways though? Christian and catholic are different religions u know
no theyre not
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yeah they kinda are blid

technically different denominations ... but really pretty much different religions
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That site you took 3 secs of your time reinforces the point of why I quoted that verse. In context it DOES promote killing other people if they do not turn to Allah. Yes, they are given a chance to convert but if they do not, then they most certainly die. You can frame the context of it in war, but there are 2 sides of a war. There is offense and defense. You can read the preceding and proceeding verses and not find any distinction. Since there is no distinction, it stands to reason that "terrorists" are just following the word a lot more closely than you are. Also, read through to 4:95 and you'll see that you could make a strong argument that this applies to an offensive fight as those who "stay home" are not rewarded as highly as those who go out to fight(mujahideen). If the whole killing peeps thing isn't enough, intertwined in those same passages is proof that slavery is permitted even amongst those who believe.

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religion has no basis in reality, it's worthless.
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quote:
Originally posted by Fast Luck
quote:
Originally posted by smurf_king
Aren't catholic priests the ones with pederastic ways though? Christian and catholic are different religions u know
no theyre not


uhh yes they are
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claw is an anarchist jew
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quote:
Originally posted by smurf_king
claw is an anarchist jew

is that supposed to be an insult??

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no clue how you found out but im proud to be jewish

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quote:
Originally posted by smurf_king
quote:
Originally posted by Fast Luck
quote:
Originally posted by smurf_king
Aren't catholic priests the ones with pederastic ways though? Christian and catholic are different religions u know
no theyre not


uhh yes they are

"Christian and catholic are different religions u know"

Dummy, Catholics are obviously Christians
They along with the Orthodox are the original Christians

Wtf
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quote:
Originally posted by Fast Luck
quote:
Originally posted by smurf_king
quote:
Originally posted by Fast Luck
quote:
Originally posted by smurf_king
Aren't catholic priests the ones with pederastic ways though? Christian and catholic are different religions u know
no theyre not


uhh yes they are

"Christian and catholic are different religions u know"

Dummy, Catholics are obviously Christians
They along with the Orthodox are the original Christians

Wtf


ur are stupid.
so far in my entire life i havent met a homosexual that has the half of cleverness an heterosexual has but i will let you this one time proceed with an explanation.

you are referring to people as individuals when saying catholics are obviously christians.

my statement is and still stands, christian and catholic are different RELIGIONS .

even if you go to wikipedia u dumb sore faggot moron. and type christians
you will notice a link called disambiguation, where you could actually LEARN

christianity , which is the religion itself. not christian (the person, or the individual who practices it)

which is the statement that i wrote.


but i guess im writing in vain, your like have the least learning capabilities in any subject im not expecting you to grasp anything this, though, my 4year old nephew would if explained it to him.
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besides

"catholics may be christians" but that statement can't be applied otherwards.


christians are not catholics.


dumb faggot
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smurf_king



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you dont wanna mess with me today, as i always ridicule you.
hahahahah


but truth is, you ridiculize yourself. hahahahaha
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yea so smurf_king is a mental handicap but that's news to no one.

of course Christianity and Catholicism aren't separate religions. It's like saying Shia Islam and Islam are separate religions.


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yeah smurf king is fucked up lol
the worst thing is that he believes hes funny and smart

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Why the fuck in hell i see a racist thread on this index, cant you not go to general discussion to do your garbage shit.

This is a war2 ru index, your thread have to talk about war2 gtfo.

If you guys want to get a chance with voobly, this kind of thread dint gonna help us, die in hell retard.

PS: For the love of god, delete this shitty thread blid.
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quote:
Originally posted by smurf_king
besides

"catholics may be christians" but that statement can't be applied otherwards.


christians are not catholics.


dumb faggot
some are. the catholic ones.
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quote:
Originally posted by smurf_king
you dont wanna mess with me today, as i always ridicule you.
hahahahah


but truth is, you ridiculize yourself. hahahahaha

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I think we should turn this into the "can't be applied otherwards" thread. I'll start

Green may be a color but a color may not be green.

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Religious violence has less to do with the religion itself and more with how foolish (or alternatively power-hungry) people choose interpret it. Christianity, for example, has more than its fair share of atrocities under its belt:

quote:
Originally posted by Wikipedia
Heitman and Hagan identify the Inquisition, Crusades, Wars of Religion and antisemitism as being "among the most notorious examples of Christian violence".

Or is that all just cool now because it was x hundred years ago?

quote:
Originally posted by GreenPlastic
That site you took 3 secs of your time reinforces the point of why I quoted that verse. In context it DOES promote killing other people if they do not turn to Allah. Yes, they are given a chance to convert but if they do not, then they most certainly die. You can frame the context of it in war, but there are 2 sides of a war. There is offense and defense. You can read the preceding and proceeding verses and not find any distinction. Since there is no distinction, it stands to reason that "terrorists" are just following the word a lot more closely than you are. Also, read through to 4:95 and you'll see that you could make a strong argument that this applies to an offensive fight as those who "stay home" are not rewarded as highly as those who go out to fight(mujahideen). If the whole killing peeps thing isn't enough, intertwined in those same passages is proof that slavery is permitted even amongst those who believe.

The phrase you quoted is immediately followed with:

quote:
Originally posted by Lightbro's link
"Except those who join a group between whom and you there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with hearts restraining them from fighting you as well as fighting their own people."


Which completely changes the meaning of the passage from "Kill everyone who doesn't agree with you" to "Defend yourself against those who would do you or others harm." Shit was a lot more violent back then, you can't really blame them for being serious about self-defense.
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