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_Ataxia_
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da bears
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:20 am |
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smurf_king
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Originally posted by _Ataxia_
da bears
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:25 am |
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TYRYTY
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You can't just cut any country into pieces and give them away, because Putin wants so. Its XXI century, it cant work that way anymore. What if in a half year he will want something else? He will send army, he will say obvious and old bullshit about protecting russian citizens and old soviet fabulous word NORMALIZATION (military intervention).
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:38 am |
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Jon;
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you think it's a land grab? Crimea are mostly Russian-speakers and they already have a military base there...
it's odd, Russia's neighbouring country gets their government unlawfully overthrown and people are crying that they're getting involved... _________________ "i don't have pet peeves, i have major psychotic fucking hatreds"
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:55 am |
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TYRYTY
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yes, unlawfully overthrown, but not by other country, but by their own citizens, thats the difference, and yes Russian-speakers, but hey, Russians should blame Chruschtschow for it,
He gave Crimea for Ukraine. Back then it was ZSRR, so it didnt make any differnce for them at all, times has changed and it doesn't work the way Putin wants, theres no ZSRR- in form it was- anymore
and transfer to other country- only if *unknown soldiers* will leave streets in Crimea, otherwise referrendum would be pointless and completely not fair
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:19 am |
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Fast Luck
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It does work the way Putin wants it. Crimea will be his! _________________ i zero bagged your mother
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
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listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:35 am |
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smurf_king
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right on comrades! _________________ http://phoenixtears.ca/
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 12:00 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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putin said he doesnt want to annex crimea _________________
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:06 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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quote:
Originally posted by TYRYTY
yes, unlawfully overthrown, but not by other country, but by their own citizens, thats the difference, and yes Russian-speakers,
the point is its not really unusual an action given the circumstances, orkinman is actually right about that. if there was a popular uprising and then a coup in colombia (or any of the bazillion countries the US has military bases in) you would most likely see US troops all over the regions they're stationed in "securing US interests" and no one would care. but since its russia doing it everyone starts talking about the evil empire, same as if china did something like this in mongolia or something
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Originally posted by TYRYTY
but hey, Russians should blame Chruschtschow for it,
He gave Crimea for Ukraine. Back then it was ZSRR, so it didnt make any differnce for them at all, times has changed and it doesn't work the way Putin wants, theres no ZSRR- in form it was- anymore
and transfer to other country
that was done pretty much solely for administrative reasons and no one really cared at the time because no one really foresaw that 40 years from now the eastern bloc would be balkanized by nazi fascists and then strip mined and sold off to IMF sponsored gangsters _________________
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:09 pm |
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TYRYTY
Joined: 09 Oct 2010
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quote:
Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
the point is its not really unusual an action given the circumstances, orkinman is actually right about that. if there was a popular uprising and then a coup in colombia (or any of the bazillion countries the US has military bases in) you would most likely see US troops all over the regions they're stationed in "securing US interests" and no one would care. but since its russia doing it everyone starts talking about the evil empire, same as if china did something like this in mongolia or something
thats what Putin said today: Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and actually he is 100% right, but it doesn't change anything, it just makes it look more fair
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:31 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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its just funny that russian soldiers start securing russian military and naval bases and the general area around them without firing a shot and everyone freaks out about the evil empire, while NATO drops bombs on people in libya and those same people are cheering on NATO with no self awareness at all lol _________________
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:53 pm |
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terror-kahn
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quote:
Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by ORKinman2
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by ORKinman2
Because the people of the Caucasus are sick of being repressed & controlled, oh wait that's normal life in Russia anyway. I said in the grand scheme of things, not in the upcoming years, but eventually it will be its own region--why delay the inevitable?
but why. its belonged to russia for over two hundred years and russian power has shown no side of waning there, in fact the opposite in recent years. its slightly more likely to break off from russia than texas is to break off from the US (US/texan settlers ran a slightly more efficient genocide program than the russians)
There's so much information here that is wrong that I can't tell if you're trolling.
tell me what im wrong about then smart guy
you were wrong the second you swam into your mother's egg. _________________
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:20 pm |
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Fast Luck
Joined: 11 Oct 2001
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Interesting that you consider the spermatozoa "him" but not the egg. _________________ i zero bagged your mother
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Originally posted by Fast Luck
hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:22 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by terror-kahn
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by ORKinman2
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Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by ORKinman2
Because the people of the Caucasus are sick of being repressed & controlled, oh wait that's normal life in Russia anyway. I said in the grand scheme of things, not in the upcoming years, but eventually it will be its own region--why delay the inevitable?
but why. its belonged to russia for over two hundred years and russian power has shown no side of waning there, in fact the opposite in recent years. its slightly more likely to break off from russia than texas is to break off from the US (US/texan settlers ran a slightly more efficient genocide program than the russians)
There's so much information here that is wrong that I can't tell if you're trolling.
tell me what im wrong about then smart guy
you were wrong the second you swam into your mother's egg.
holy shit...the hours of effort your retarded brain put into this epic burn really show _________________
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:25 pm |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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http://www.channel4.com/news/svoboda-ministers-ukraine-new-government-far-right lol what a surprise, another western backed government full of reactionaries and fascists _________________
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Wed Mar 05, 2014 11:14 am |
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Fast Luck
Joined: 11 Oct 2001
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are you pleased to become a russian _________________ i zero bagged your mother
quote:
Originally posted by Fast Luck
hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend
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Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:32 am |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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hold a referendum to return to the constitution of 1924 for great justice _________________
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:34 am |
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Kith-Kanin
Joined: 15 Sep 2000
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Can someone show me to Vault 13?
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Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:13 pm |
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TYRYTY
Joined: 09 Oct 2010
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remove ruski army, wait few months at least, make referrendum
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Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:37 am |
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Fast Luck
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yeah, great recipe for the ukrainians to roll in and fuck over the ethnic russians! just leave them wide open and unprotected with a referendum looming _________________ i zero bagged your mother
quote:
Originally posted by Fast Luck
hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend
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Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:41 am |
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TYRYTY
Joined: 09 Oct 2010
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i mean remove from streets, they should go back to their base,
referrendum with spetsnaz over your shoulder isn't good idea
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Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:43 am |
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Fast Luck
Joined: 11 Oct 2001
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Russians won't hurt them.. _________________ i zero bagged your mother
quote:
Originally posted by Fast Luck
hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend
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Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:45 am |
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TYRYTY
Joined: 09 Oct 2010
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From what i read/see in tv russian citizens arent in any danger.
Thats good old soviet/ Hitlers excuse, which Putin is using now to scare everyone with military power.
Referrendum ok- but people cant be scared if you want to see their free will, at least i see it this way, and it makes sense.
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Fri Mar 07, 2014 11:49 am |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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would a referendum or any other kind of election under the current ukrainian "government" be any more free and fair, considering their moves since taking power and the ideological composition of the government (neoliberals at best, actual nazis at worst) _________________
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Fri Mar 07, 2014 5:18 pm |
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TYRYTY
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referrendum- people show their will, Klitschko and others can say what they want, Yatsenyuk means literally nothing, he can spit out of his mouth whatever he wants, Putin doesn't care about him and west countries will not die for Ukraine, but this "government" believes they will lol moron nob nice
Referrendum looks like the best way out. Putin and west will respect it. Thats the price, if they think that Russians will give up and leave Ukraine without their influence they are really complete and naive morons.
If the only thing they (new "government") can do is "we demand from west", theyll be alone in the end, and what they will do?
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Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:09 am |
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hassan-i-sabbah
Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by TYRYTY
referrendum- people show their will, Klitschko and others can say what they want, Yatsenyuk means literally nothing, he can spit out of his mouth whatever he wants, Putin doesn't care about him and west countries will not die for Ukraine, but this "government" believes they will lol moron nob nice
uh the nazi dudes have actual high level offices under the new government http://www.channel4.com/news/svoboda-ministers-ukraine-new-government-far-right _________________
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:24 am |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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it doesn't look good more long term either. far-right was polling pretty well before, the collapse of yanuk govt put lots of these guys in real positions of power, and now they have cred and legitimacy to a lot of people as the dudes who were on the front lines of the protests. depending on how crimea thing plays out russian-backed separatism is just going to throw more gas on the nazi fire _________________
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:15 am |
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hassan-i-sabbah
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Originally posted by turtleman
A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
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