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			  | No. I have nothing to hide and it's in the name of Homeland Security |  | 16% | [ 1 ] |  
			  | Yes. They have absolutely no business monitoring me |  | 83% | [ 5 ] |  
			  | Undecided |  | 0% | [ 0 ] |  |  
		| Total Votes : 6 |  |  
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                | Andrzej 
 
  
 Joined: 24 Jun 2009
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 | Antonio Gramsci would love the first option._________________
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by Swift
 blid wasn't caught using hacks, he admitted that he was testing hacks to learn about them for administrative purposes
 
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                | hassan-i-sabbah 
 
 
 Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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quote: 
  Originally posted by Andrzej
 Antonio Gramsci would love the first option.
 
 
 "police, military and secret services"
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quote: 
  Originally posted by turtleman
 A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:15 am |  |  | 
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                | Fast Luck 
 
  
 Joined: 11 Oct 2001
 Posts: 22805
 Location: Penis
 | i dont really care much about it.  i dont like the purpose it's used for (to defend capitalist america and imperialism, ie to defend america as it exists) though, and  i do think the US is being qq babbies over snowden also lol_________________
 i zero bagged your mother
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by Fast Luck
 hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
 dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
 listen little friend stay outta the deep end
 cuz you're less street than vampire weekend
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:40 am |  |  | 
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                | Fast Luck 
 
  
 Joined: 11 Oct 2001
 Posts: 22805
 Location: Penis
 | so much spin involved, like obama saying whistleblowers are good back in the day, and now all the media hyping this guy as a traitor for leaking information about undisclosed monitoring powers and programs.  lol at them refusing to let evo's plane cross over their allies' airspace_________________
 i zero bagged your mother
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by Fast Luck
 hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
 dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
 listen little friend stay outta the deep end
 cuz you're less street than vampire weekend
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:45 am |  |  | 
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                | foonat 
 
 
 Joined: 09 Mar 2003
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quote: 
  kinda feel the same way - don't really care since i don't do anything they'd give a shit about and if it helps stop a guy from blowing up my block then w/eOriginally posted by Fast Luck
 i dont really care much about it.  i dont like the purpose it's used for (to defend capitalist america and imperialism, ie to defend america as it exists) though, and  i do think the US is being qq babbies over snowden also lol
 
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 i rather be a pedophile than a homo
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 8:48 am |  |  | 
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                | Mackman 
 
 
 Joined: 19 Apr 2001
 Posts: 3639
 
 | The love affair with Obama continues. People were up in arms when Bush first started the patriot act, I could only imagine the outcry had a republican still be in power. 
 I think its a huge over reach ripe for abuse. And it will happen.
 
 I'm really surprised that you guys simply don't care about being snooped on like a criminal.
 
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                | Fast Luck 
 
  
 Joined: 11 Oct 2001
 Posts: 22805
 Location: Penis
 | well yeah, liberals would be mega angry if this happened with bush in power.  so you shoudl be happy, a democrat in office means heavy-handed security measures of the type conservatives love can even more eeasily be put into place_________________
 i zero bagged your mother
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by Fast Luck
 hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
 dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
 listen little friend stay outta the deep end
 cuz you're less street than vampire weekend
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:01 am |  |  | 
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                | foonat 
 
 
 Joined: 09 Mar 2003
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quote: 
  also taxes = stealing tvOriginally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by Andrzej
 Antonio Gramsci would love the first option.
 
 
 "police, military and secret services"
 
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quote: 
  Originally posted by smurf_king
 
 i rather be a pedophile than a homo
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:02 am |  |  | 
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                | Fast Luck 
 
  
 Joined: 11 Oct 2001
 Posts: 22805
 Location: Penis
 | snowden got out of the airport.  he lives in russia now_________________
 i zero bagged your mother
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by Fast Luck
 hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
 dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
 listen little friend stay outta the deep end
 cuz you're less street than vampire weekend
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:05 am |  |  | 
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                | Jon; 
 
 
 Joined: 13 Oct 2008
 Posts: 13966
 
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quote: 
  Originally posted by Fast Luck
 i dont really care much about it. l
 
 
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by foonat
 don't really care
 
 
 worthless americans, pacified and dumb
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                | terror-kahn 
 
  
 Joined: 22 Oct 2007
 Posts: 4005
 Location: Savannah, GA
 | agreed macman .. i think its opens a shit ton of doors for abuse.
 anyone ever heard the term "gradualization" ???  government pushing the envelope ever so slightly as to not disrupt the masses. before you know it they have complete control over your life.
 
 pretty much exactly what happened in Nazi Germany. The holocaust was an extremely slow process. 1 step at a time... everything leading up to it was in the name of freedom and security.
 
 it seems history may be repeating itself, and everyone seems to have forgotten what happened just 60 or so years ago.
 
 
 whether you have something to hide or not, the government has no right monitoring unless there is a reasonable suspicion in my opinion... and if there is reasonable suspicion, they should have to go through the proper steps to acquire a search warrant.
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                | Jon; 
 
 
 Joined: 13 Oct 2008
 Posts: 13966
 
 | american government is the worst entity i've ever seen_________________
 "i don't have pet peeves, i have major psychotic fucking hatreds"
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                | hassan-i-sabbah 
 
 
 Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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quote: 
  Originally posted by terror-kahn
 pretty much exactly what happened in Nazi Germany. The holocaust was an extremely slow process. 1 step at a time... everything leading up to it was in the name of freedom and security.
 
 
 you have no clue what you're talking about as usual.  germany transforming from a fairly modern, "liberal" state to the start of "the holocaust" was pretty rapid.  also comparing the modern US to the weimar republic in terms of general political and social stability is pretty lol
 
 america is already worse than nazi germany
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quote: 
  Originally posted by turtleman
 A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
 
 
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                | terror-kahn 
 
  
 Joined: 22 Oct 2007
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quote: 
  Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by terror-kahn
 pretty much exactly what happened in Nazi Germany. The holocaust was an extremely slow process. 1 step at a time... everything leading up to it was in the name of freedom and security.
 
 
 you have no clue what you're talking about as usual
 
 america is already worse than nazi germany
 
 
 um.
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:24 am |  |  | 
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                | hassan-i-sabbah 
 
 
 Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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 | its true_________________
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by turtleman
 A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:26 am |  |  | 
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                | Jon; 
 
 
 Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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quote: 
  Originally posted by terror-kahn
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by terror-kahn
 pretty much exactly what happened in Nazi Germany. The holocaust was an extremely slow process. 1 step at a time... everything leading up to it was in the name of freedom and security.
 
 
 you have no clue what you're talking about as usual
 
 america is already worse than nazi germany
 
 
 um.
 
 
 nazi germany only killed jews, gn doesn't think that is of importance.
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:31 am |  |  | 
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                | hassan-i-sabbah 
 
 
 Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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quote: 
  Originally posted by Jon;
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by terror-kahn
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by hassan-i-sabbah
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by terror-kahn
 pretty much exactly what happened in Nazi Germany. The holocaust was an extremely slow process. 1 step at a time... everything leading up to it was in the name of freedom and security.
 
 
 you have no clue what you're talking about as usual
 
 america is already worse than nazi germany
 
 
 um.
 
 
 nazi germany only killed jews, gn doesn't think that is of importance.
 
 
 actually at least half or so of the victims of nazism were not jews but other targeted ethnic and political groups.  nice zionist racism tho
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quote: 
  Originally posted by turtleman
 A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:33 am |  |  | 
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                | hassan-i-sabbah 
 
 
 Joined: 10 Nov 2006
 Posts: 27424
 
 | also the US supports and enables the genocide of the native semitic inhabitants of palestine at the hands of israel, a colonial terror state dominated by white jews of european descent.  thats not antisemitic though lol_________________
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by turtleman
 A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:34 am |  |  | 
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                | -667- 
 
 
 Joined: 21 Nov 2001
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quote: 
  Originally posted by Mackman
 The love affair with Obama continues. People were up in arms when Bush first started the patriot act, I could only imagine the outcry had a republican still be in power.
 
 I think its a huge over reach ripe for abuse. And it will happen.
 
 I'm really surprised that you guys simply don't care about being snooped on like a criminal.
 
 
 http://war2.warcraft.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=167116&highlight=patriot+act#167116
 
 you are embarrassing
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:18 am |  |  | 
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                | hassan-i-sabbah 
 
 
 Joined: 10 Nov 2006
 Posts: 27424
 
 | lmao.  i knew there were posts like that floating around but i was too lazy to find them, gj_________________
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by turtleman
 A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:24 am |  |  | 
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                | Jon; 
 
 
 Joined: 13 Oct 2008
 Posts: 13966
 
 | When you think about it though U.S government is worse than Nazi Germany. Just for their support of Israel and their torture camp Guantanamo alone make them comparable._________________
 "i don't have pet peeves, i have major psychotic fucking hatreds"
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:31 am |  |  | 
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                | Fast Luck 
 
  
 Joined: 11 Oct 2001
 Posts: 22805
 Location: Penis
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  i meant the latest revelations/scandal/leaker etc.  of course the thing you linked happened udner bush, thats how i know liberals would get so mad about this now (if it werent under obama).Originally posted by Jon;
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by Fast Luck
 well yeah, liberals would be mega angry if this happened with bush in power.
 
 
 it did happen with bush in power
 
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_tapping#NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy
 
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 i zero bagged your mother
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by Fast Luck
 hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
 dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
 listen little friend stay outta the deep end
 cuz you're less street than vampire weekend
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:31 am |  |  | 
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                | Andrzej 
 
  
 Joined: 24 Jun 2009
 Posts: 445
 
 | Always happy to touch the sensitive vaginas of clueless >25k post noobs acting like they know what's going on._________________
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by Swift
 blid wasn't caught using hacks, he admitted that he was testing hacks to learn about them for administrative purposes
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:51 am |  |  | 
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                | hassan-i-sabbah 
 
 
 Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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quote: 
  Originally posted by Andrzej
 Always happy to touch the sensitive vaginas of clueless >25k post noobs acting like they know what's going on.
 
 
 
 are you saying you want to touch the genitals of people on this forum
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quote: 
  Originally posted by turtleman
 A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
 
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                | Andrzej 
 
  
 Joined: 24 Jun 2009
 Posts: 445
 
 | Nop but i'm glad you and your chair are not the unity yet and you are still able to use Wikipedia._________________
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by Swift
 blid wasn't caught using hacks, he admitted that he was testing hacks to learn about them for administrative purposes
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:04 am |  |  | 
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                | hassan-i-sabbah 
 
 
 Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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quote: 
  Originally posted by Andrzej
 Nop but i'm glad you and your chair are not the unity yet and you are still able to use Wikipedia.
 
 
 speak english you gibbering retard
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quote: 
  Originally posted by turtleman
 A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:05 am |  |  | 
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                | Andrzej 
 
  
 Joined: 24 Jun 2009
 Posts: 445
 
 | If i would write over 25 k posts in english i would speak it better than you. Too bad i got no time like you._________________
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by Swift
 blid wasn't caught using hacks, he admitted that he was testing hacks to learn about them for administrative purposes
 
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                |  Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:07 am |  |  | 
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                | Jon; 
 
 
 Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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quote: 
  Originally posted by Andrzej
 Always happy to touch the sensitive vaginas of clueless >25k post noobs acting like they know what's going on.
 
 
 
 until you actually have proven you have any better grasp on "what's going on" than anyone in this thread you should probably shut the fuck up.  so far you're spewing a bunch of barely coherent nonsense and talking about post counts.
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