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                | foonat 
 
 
 Joined: 09 Mar 2003
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 | i would argue protoss requires much more micro than terran |  
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                | hassan-i-sabbah 
 
 
 Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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  Originally posted by turtleman@can
 protoss are the quickest route to a win for somebody who has no experience and doesn't know any strategies. They're about as vanilla of a race as you can get, they require no tactical thinking and little micro to play on a basic level. you literally just make buildings and build a ball of units for 6 minutes and attack(which is basically what ghostnuke did every game). They're virtually the same as they were in bw.
 
 
 lol the qq never ends
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  Originally posted by turtleman
 A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
 
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                |  Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:47 pm |  |  | 
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                | turtleman@can 
 
 
 Joined: 08 Apr 2003
 Posts: 8841
 Location: Canada
 | are you still talking about qqing , i must have really hurt your feelings sorry dude keep ur chin up |  
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                | Sypher 
 
  
 Joined: 18 Sep 2000
 Posts: 5698
 Location: Detroit, MI
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  Originally posted by turtleman@can
 you're the one who's bragging that you beat a guy who was going all axers
 
 also any FPS fans watch this
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6j8O8ugMw8
 
 what the fuck this is why I don't play FPS games
 
 
 haha.. its the korean CS ripoff.
 
 Once you learn how to quickscope and the maps, its pretty easy to pull this shit off.  Obviously this dude has sick reaction time, but you can do the same type of shit only .5 sec slower.
 
 It is just a matter of knowing how long it takes other team to get to x location and what direction hey coming from.
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                | Sypher 
 
  
 Joined: 18 Sep 2000
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 Location: Detroit, MI
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quote: 
  Originally posted by turtleman@can
 protoss are the quickest route to a win for somebody who has no experience and doesn't know any strategies. They're about as vanilla of a race as you can get, they require no tactical thinking and little micro to play on a basic level. you literally just make buildings and build a ball of units for 6 minutes and attack(which is basically what ghostnuke did every game). They're virtually the same as they were in bw.
 
 
 lol what?
 
 I agree that mechanically Protoss is the most 'simple' race; however, at higher levels they require a fuckton of micro.
 
 Terran is the only race that can 1a vs other races and win.
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 "I tend to thougoughly enjoy my encounters significantly more with 120+ types, as I find them more stimulating. 100-110 people are okay too operating at full capacity." - Paper_Boy
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                |  Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:57 pm |  |  | 
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                | turtleman@can 
 
 
 Joined: 08 Apr 2003
 Posts: 8841
 Location: Canada
 | That's all I said, they're a simple race to play for a beginner. Although being a random player I can say that they're the easiest race to use for me at higher levels of play. I just feel like they're so easy to macro and build up a huge economy once you secure your expansion and unlike the other races, you really can't go terribly wrong with unit compositions until late game. I've never been run over by any race using protoss. You might lose a fight but it's never one sided. |  
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                | hassan-i-sabbah 
 
 
 Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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quote: 
  Originally posted by turtleman@can
 higher levels of play.
 
 
 lol
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quote: 
  Originally posted by turtleman
 A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
 
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                |  Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:29 pm |  |  | 
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                | foonat 
 
 
 Joined: 09 Mar 2003
 Posts: 7716
 
 | says the copper leaguer, rofl |  
                |  Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:18 pm |  |  | 
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                | turtleman@can 
 
 
 Joined: 08 Apr 2003
 Posts: 8841
 Location: Canada
 | i'm 1v1 diamond random player not that that means anything, but I'm pretty sure I could stomp both of you 2on1 |  
                |  Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:23 pm |  |  | 
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                | foonat 
 
 
 Joined: 09 Mar 2003
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quote: 
  u want a repeat of this?Originally posted by foonat
 
 
 foonat (#6) defeated BF.TurtleMan (#66) on "Garden of War" at 21:32:02 on 02/28/2010.
 foonat (#6) defeated BF.TurtleMan (#66) on "Garden of War" at 21:25:50 on 02/28/2010.
 foonat (#6) defeated BF.TurtleMan (#66) on "Garden of War" at 21:12:14 on 02/28/2010.
 
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                | hassan-i-sabbah 
 
 
 Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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quote: 
  Originally posted by turtleman@can
 i'm 1v1 diamond random player not that that means anything, but I'm pretty sure I could stomp both of you 2on1
 
 
 you couldnt beat me 1on1 though?  hmmm.  lol
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  Originally posted by turtleman
 A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
 
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                | Sypher 
 
  
 Joined: 18 Sep 2000
 Posts: 5698
 Location: Detroit, MI
 | I am pretty sure I am the only person on this board that exclusively plays zerg.
 Just sayin'.
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                |  Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:16 am |  |  | 
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                | hassan-i-sabbah 
 
 
 Joined: 10 Nov 2006
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quote: 
  Originally posted by Shotgun_
 Id say tman would beat hassan 1on1 on sc2 right now.
 
 
 nah, he's 0-2 rofl
 
 edit: maybe 0-3, scrub games kind of went by in a blur for me at the time
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  Originally posted by turtleman
 A normal person wouldn't say that in real life because it's ridiculous and insulting. Yet here you are spouting the most hateful garbage that your demons can muster out of your darkened soul. All because of the internet.
 
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                |  Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:49 am |  |  | 
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                | NaLzyMan 
 
 
 Joined: 22 Nov 2001
 Posts: 1499
 Location: Everett, Washington, USA
 | heh Nerz is somewhere between 900-1000 right now, I am at 662, though admittedly i've played less than half as many games as him so far in live and a lot less in beta as well.  
 He is probably the best sc2 player from war2 by a large margin right now.
 
 I was actually hoping war2 players would represent better but oh well.
 
 I wouldn't put too much faith in the ladder though, while it can be a partial indicator of someone's skill it is ultimately designed through bonus pool and rating system to inflate and give the majority of players the feeling of constant progression.
 
 The MMR system is ok for online ladders but it will take a few months for it to accurately calculate everyone's MMR.
 
 In the end it is just a ladder, don't pretend you are good just because you have points on it, and don't feel you are bad just cause you aren't at the top of diamond.
 
 Just play the game and try to learn it and don't worry about superficial things like a ladder designed for casuals.
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                | Sypher 
 
  
 Joined: 18 Sep 2000
 Posts: 5698
 Location: Detroit, MI
 | Can't wait till my race isn't worthless so I can put all you scrubs to shame._________________
 "I tend to thougoughly enjoy my encounters significantly more with 120+ types, as I find them more stimulating. 100-110 people are okay too operating at full capacity." - Paper_Boy
 
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                |  Mon Aug 16, 2010 9:55 am |  |  | 
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                | Rat 
 
  
 Joined: 24 Mar 2005
 Posts: 1045
 
 | some serious wrong with the gas/minerals ratio. I start my third base to get more gas and not more minerals.  That feels wrong._________________
 GreenHorn: Nexus cried every time I beat him but still thought he was better.
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                |  Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:01 am |  |  | 
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                | Sypher 
 
  
 Joined: 18 Sep 2000
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 Location: Detroit, MI
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  Originally posted by Rat
 some serious wrong with the gas/minerals ratio. I start my third base to get more gas and not more minerals.  That feels wrong.
 
 
 What race do you play?
 
 As zerg, I always have tons of minerals if i fully saturate my bases.  Zerg is just a very gas hungry race.  Mutas 100g, Hydra 50, etc.
 
 I typically aim for 1.5 per patch on 3 bases with all gas's at max. usually keeps it pretty balanced and gives me higher mineral/minute than someone on 2 bases with 3 per patch.
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 "I tend to thougoughly enjoy my encounters significantly more with 120+ types, as I find them more stimulating. 100-110 people are okay too operating at full capacity." - Paper_Boy
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                |  Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:22 am |  |  | 
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                | foonat 
 
 
 Joined: 09 Mar 2003
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quote: 
  nerzy does tooOriginally posted by Sypher
 I am pretty sure I am the only person on this board that exclusively plays zerg.
 
 Just sayin'.
 
 
 i went 1-3 vs. him t.t
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                |  Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:22 am |  |  | 
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                | Sypher 
 
  
 Joined: 18 Sep 2000
 Posts: 5698
 Location: Detroit, MI
 | Just 2gate.  
 Zerg is at a huge disadvantage mid game against a 2gate.  There is a huge window where zerg is extremely vulnerable vs 2gate.
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                |  Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:24 am |  |  | 
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                | foonat 
 
 
 Joined: 09 Mar 2003
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 | i did i think, but he outplayed me hard |  
                |  Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:38 am |  |  | 
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                | 7VlesSiah 
 
  
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  Originally posted by Shotgun_
 Nerz seems to be the best war2 player on sc2 (by along way). Then Capook then Koorb.
 
 
 Lol.. I currently rate(and rank) higher than Capook.  Nerz is top 100 NA.  What is koorbs in game name?
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                |  Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:16 am |  |  | 
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                | kublikhan 
 
  
 Joined: 11 Jul 2003
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 Location: Schaumburg, IL
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  That's nothing. I am top 7,000 in my region. My 21 wins and 58% win ratio is simply epic. Watch out Nerz, I am nipping at your heals....Originally posted by 7VlesSiah
 
 
quote: 
  Originally posted by Shotgun_
 Nerz seems to be the best war2 player on sc2 (by along way). Then Capook then Koorb.
 
 
 Lol.. I currently rate(and rank) higher than Capook.  Nerz is top 100 NA.  What is koorbs in game name?
 
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                |  Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:31 am |  |  | 
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                | Rat 
 
  
 Joined: 24 Mar 2005
 Posts: 1045
 
 | where can u see your rank in the region?
I can only see my ranking in my division.
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                |  Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:00 pm |  |  | 
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                | kublikhan 
 
  
 Joined: 11 Jul 2003
 Posts: 2849
 Location: Schaumburg, IL
 | I used a 3rd party website: 
Starcraft 2 Rankings
 Use the search button on top, middle button.
 
 Edit: my ranking is top 9,000 in NA, not 7,000. Even more epic!
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                |  Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:06 pm |  |  | 
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                | kublikhan 
 
  
 Joined: 11 Jul 2003
 Posts: 2849
 Location: Schaumburg, IL
 | Actually, use the character code button if you know their name and code, or else you might see lots of duplicate names.
 You can get many war2 players names/codes from here:
 Screen names and unit code
 
 Not sure why my rank keeps changing. Sometimes it says 6,000 ish, sometimes 8,000 ish. Ah well.
 
 What are Nerz/nalz's name and codes?
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                |  Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:22 pm |  |  | 
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                | kublikhan 
 
  
 Joined: 11 Jul 2003
 Posts: 2849
 Location: Schaumburg, IL
 | Check out the differences between diamond divisions. here is the top rated diamond division(Average points 749):
Medivac Alamo
 
 and here is mine(average points 408):
 Torus November
 
 And here is the worst diamond division(average points 298):
 Zer’atai Indigo
 
 My division is closer to the bottom than the top.
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