http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pETcAm82vXU&playnext_from=TL&videos=uDSGk8uNVdQ&feature=sub

this stalker micro made me lol
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thanks for the brilliant response question is what units are direct counter to hydras? if any?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pETcAm82vXU&playnext_from=TL&videos=uDSGk8uNVdQ&feature=sub

this stalker micro made me lol

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that was pretty cool haha

man sometimes when I'm watching replays I wish the commentators would just stfu, but it's easier to watch something by loading up youtube than logging into sc2 and downloading/loading the replay

there's all these guys that are trying to be the charles barkley of sc2 and then when a fight breaks out they start screaming like a mexican soccer announcer. meanwhile they just fill the silence with meaningless bullshit. I don't mind listening to some of the announcers like day9 or tasteless from bw because they actually know what they're talking about and have actual personalities , but most of these people on youtube sound like they're trying to do voiceover work for a japanese cartoon without knowing japanese.

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man sometimes when I'm watching replays I wish the commentators would just stfu, but it's easier to watch something by loading up youtube than logging into sc2 and downloading/loading the replay

there's all these guys that are trying to be the charles barkley of sc2 and then when a fight breaks out they start screaming like a mexican soccer announcer. meanwhile they just fill the silence with meaningless bullshit. I don't mind listening to some of the announcers like day9 or tasteless from bw because they actually know what they're talking about and have actual personalities , but most of these people on youtube sound like they're trying to do voiceover work for a japanese cartoon without knowing japanese.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pETcAm82vXU&playnext_from=TL&videos=uDSGk8uNVdQ&feature=sub

this stalker micro made me lol

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I remember before I settled on terrain i experimented with stalker blink like that, but I was a fumbling idiot compared to his micro of them. It reminds me of using night elf archers with inviz in war3.

Wow thats amazing that stalker micro, he must have such good accuracy to do that shit, and like 0 lag.
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Might try blink out some more after watching that

yeah if you're going to mass stalkers then blink seems like a pretty mandatory upgrade, considering it's basically a get out of jail free card even if you can't micro like that guy but I think if you target the unit being attacked as soon as you see him being attacked, and then blink him from that moment, you'll probably pull it off just before he dies like that guy did. I think a mistake a lot of people make is they wait a second for his health to lower but then by the time they blink him hes already dead.

I need some really good youtube replays. If anyone finds any post them up on here. They have to be youtube though, because I don't have sc2 installed at the work computers lol.

We need some dragon age style AI tweaks for starcraft 2.

If <stalker> <shields> <Collapse> <blink>.
If <Grouped Bio> <Cast> <PsiStorm>.

Here's some replays:
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edit: fixed link
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are there any sc2 podcasts being made anywhere? i'd be interested in listening in the car when im sitting in traffic

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are there any sc2 podcasts being made anywhere? i'd be interested in listening in the car when im sitting in traffic

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Personally I'm kind of bored now, don't really have much drive to play. I know what I have to do every game, I know it'll just be a match of skill or build order, and it will be kind of fun but also kind of whatever. I think a big part of it is the "impersonal" ness of it, the lack of chat or community - and team player isn't an answer because team play doesn't really feel that interesting (at least compared to war2). I think the same-ness has hit me and it no longer intrigues me because the gameplay now already feels like old hat. ::shrug::
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Personally I'm kind of bored now, don't really have much drive to play. I know what I have to do every game, I know it'll just be a match of skill or build order, and it will be kind of fun but also kind of whatever. I think a big part of it is the "impersonal" ness of it, the lack of chat or community - and team player isn't an answer because team play doesn't really feel that interesting (at least compared to war2). I think the same-ness has hit me and it no longer intrigues me because the gameplay now already feels like old hat. ::shrug::

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i think its good they kept it like BW. BW is pretty much the perfect RTS game, no reason to fuck with perfection

and i like playing with people i know more too, really makes it more fun and interesting. no war2 people are ever on at the same time though :\ hopefully this will get better in the retail (and they'll have fucking public chat channels)
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starcraft lacks good 2v2 maps. create something like friends but for starcraft and it might be interesting.
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starcraft lacks good 2v2 maps. create something like friends but for starcraft and it might be interesting.

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starcraft lacks good 2v2 maps. create something like friends but for starcraft and it might be interesting.

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twilight fortress is like friends and its horrible

maps like friends suck, they either turn into boring cookbook shit or BGH 200 food carrier shit

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starcraft lacks good 2v2 maps. create something like friends but for starcraft and it might be interesting.

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twilight fortress is like friends and its horrible

maps like friends suck, they either turn into boring cookbook shit or BGH 200 food carrier shit

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are they going to have chat channels on the release?

After sitting on it a little longer and talking about it it's also a couple other key things.

Small learning curve - Because the UI is so simple and I can do everything so easily, all there is for me to do is determine my strategy. It's almost like a turn based game in this regard. Conversely, I played some war2 last night and remembered what its like to actually not have time to do every move you want to, same thing in BW. In this regard, SC2 kind of misses the point. Not being able to do everything you need and having to make decisions of what to do with your apm was a huge part of core gameplay. It kept the game interesting every time because the different situations that presented themselves and decisions you had to make about your overall strategy as well as what to do with your apm were so different every game. With those decisions greatly lessened with the simplified UI, it's much more easy to see the limited scope of the game and the room for improvement and diversity in games is exponentially smaller.

Grouped unit "balls" - Kind of on a related note to the "ease" of the ui, the grouped units severely limits the gameplay / army control aspect of the game. In BW, smaller groups of units could be more effective, largely because massing too many would be clunky and you could bottleneck easier and take advantage of micro easier by using the large hit boxes. Honestly imagine if war2 or SC1 had units with a hitbox of 10% of what they are, grunts standing on top of eachother attacking - it would have fucking sucked. The movement of units has been absolutely streamlined and it makes it way more about the one big army like in war3 than smaller armies in SC/ war2. This may seem like something you have to "get used to", but it's a core element of the gameplay. It's the type of thing you notice at first and it feels weird, and it just only feels worse as time goes on.
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After sitting on it a little longer and talking about it it's also a couple other key things.

Small learning curve - Because the UI is so simple and I can do everything so easily, all there is for me to do is determine my strategy. It's almost like a turn based game in this regard. Conversely, I played some war2 last night and remembered what its like to actually not have time to do every move you want to, same thing in BW. In this regard, SC2 kind of misses the point. Not being able to do everything you need and having to make decisions of what to do with your apm was a huge part of core gameplay. It kept the game interesting every time because the different situations that presented themselves and decisions you had to make about your overall strategy as well as what to do with your apm were so different every game. With those decisions greatly lessened with the simplified UI, it's much more easy to see the limited scope of the game and the room for improvement and diversity in games is exponentially smaller.

Grouped unit "balls" - Kind of on a related note to the "ease" of the ui, the grouped units severely limits the gameplay / army control aspect of the game. In BW, smaller groups of units could be more effective, largely because massing too many would be clunky and you could bottleneck easier and take advantage of micro easier by using the large hit boxes. Honestly imagine if war2 or SC1 had units with a hitbox of 10% of what they are, grunts standing on top of eachother attacking - it would have fucking sucked. The movement of units has been absolutely streamlined and it makes it way more about the one big army like in war3 than smaller armies in SC/ war2. This may seem like something you have to "get used to", but it's a core element of the gameplay. It's the type of thing you notice at first and it feels weird, and it just only feels worse as time goes on.

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i like the interface improvements because it makes the game more about strategy and tactics than twitch reflexes

and twitch reflexes are still a big part of the game. its just now i don't have to worry about wasting time on telling my workers to mine manually and clicking on 10 different gateways in turn to build stuff
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i like the interface improvements because it makes the game more about strategy and tactics than twitch reflexes

and twitch reflexes are still a big part of the game. its just now i don't have to worry about wasting time on telling my workers to mine manually and clicking on 10 different gateways in turn to build stuff

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isn't there going to be an 'even faster' or 'fastest' speed setting on release.
'faster' doesn't seem like a term used to describe the fastest game setting. And I think a notch up on the speed would pretty much change the entire face of the game. The only thing I can't see with this happening is that the units already attack pretty quickly. It's the moving around that I think is slow.

I started playing again and won like 13 games in a row ... I guess there's some interesting stuff u can do with stalkers ;0
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