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~iL



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server.war2.ru or oldserver - which one is faster?

Hello, people!

I'm afraid, our new hosting is not as fast as possible.

But i think it depends on your provider, location or something.

So, i started the site: http://oldserver.war2.ru/ on the old hosting and http://server.war2.ru/ is working on the new one.

Which one is opening faster for you?
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Post Mon May 05, 2014 2:56 am 
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Lightbringer-



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Both the same at work. I'll test at home and report.
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Post Mon May 05, 2014 5:12 am 
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test



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Trick question?

Both resolve to: 62.109.21.138

Why would there be a difference. And yes, DNS flushing has been done.

Post Mon May 05, 2014 2:14 pm 
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smurf_king



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quote:
Originally posted by test
Trick question?

Both resolve to: 62.109.21.138

Why would there be a difference. And yes, DNS flushing has been done.


lol
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Post Mon May 05, 2014 3:57 pm 
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mousEtopher



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Old:
- Page Created in 0.110477 Seconds -

New:
- Page Created in 0.103683 Seconds -


*shrugs*
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Post Wed May 07, 2014 12:12 pm 
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test



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Its a trick question u weirdos. They both point to the same IP. Of course they will respond about the same. Lolz

Post Thu May 08, 2014 12:06 am 
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Post Thu May 08, 2014 2:27 am 
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~iL



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hm, ok, thank you, i see the time is the same at your side, that is great.

Several providers on my side shows differences like: 0.142103 Seconds for oldserver and 3.188855 Seconds on server.
Glad to see there is no problem for you.


quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by test
Trick question?

Both resolve to: 62.109.21.138

Why would there be a difference. And yes, DNS flushing has been done.


lol

Yes, you right, same external ip, but different servers behind it. Different hosters, different parts of the world. Magic
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Post Thu May 08, 2014 6:50 am 
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quote:
Originally posted by ~iL
Magic

Post Thu May 08, 2014 9:01 am 
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Lightbringer-



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I think the old server is loading slightly faster than the new one for me...
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test



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quote:
Originally posted by ~iL
Yes, you right, same external ip , but different servers behind it. Different hosters, different parts of the world. Magic


Then its confirmed, its a trick question rofl. Neither network will be any faster than the freakin network that the external IP is hosted at and it's an unnecessary bottleneck. Therefore, trick question Smile.

Having networks split apart by a Russian hosted external IP/networks is pointless for anyone other than those with fisher price routers who are 10 ft from the Russian location Smile No magic needed. If I remember right, you supposedly have Mousetopher hosting the website in the US and kept the old server for comparisons (which is completely unfair given the current network setup). So rather than point the DNS right at the new location for shorter hops, you make people still go through Russian networks? What kinda horseshit is that? Its a completely un-necessary hoop to jump through.

So, instead of pointing DNS at the new webserver (which I have been told is now in the US) which would make Client A in the US go from say, New York (lets pretend they are in New York), to say Chicago (maybe Mousie's server is in Chicago, IDK where it is, dont really care as it's irrelevant atm). So the client gets a nice short network round trip. But no, instead you make them go from New York, to the UK, to Europe, to Russia then BACK to Europe, UK, and NY before the webserver even sees the request? Then it makes that trip again in reverse on the reply side, doubling the network latency for every single call. Is that what is going on here? Because if it is, thats utterly retarded and a completely unfair comparison. You should only compare direct connections, not forwarded or proxied connections.

Now, if this "new setup" is in the same physical location, then ok I can see why you might have it split like this. But 2 separate networks? Thats un-necessary hoop and should never be used for speed comparisons as the closest server (old server) should and probably would always respond quicker no matter where the connection comes from. There are certain cases where funneling everything through 1 network is advantageous, but I highly doubt a War2 Webserver is one of them. The only advantage this type of setup would have is that the Russian location can do network filtering (firewall setup). That is the only advantage. There will be NO performance advantage what so ever. None. If anything, it would make the performance worse even compared to the old web server which was a direct connection.

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Get out fagler.

Still trying to be smart.. Rolling Eyes Wink
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picka, is he right or is he full of shit? seems kinda right but i dont know anything aobut it
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hassan-i-asher: majorin in takin pictures
dreamin bout wayne from catalina wine mixers
listen little friend stay outta the deep end
cuz you're less street than vampire weekend

Post Mon May 12, 2014 10:02 pm 
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Seems reasonable. There is however a reason for the roundabout journey to the new server (not performance obviously :P)
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quote:
Originally posted by Fast Luck
picka, is he right or is he full of shit? seems kinda right but i dont know anything aobut it

He is right LOL hahahahahaha thats why picka had short response.

I think he did this for a security purpose though.

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